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Messaggio Da CiGNeTTa Mar Mar 15, 2011 1:29 am

ho visto la puntata di michelle: carina!devo dire che, in alcuni punti, mi è piaciuta più questa michelle, quando tira fuori le palle (finalmente). anche se l'inutilità di questo Tony è veramente disarmante, cioè, non è minimamente credibile che tutte sbavino dietro a quel broccolo...
anche se la scena in cui lei lo pianta, in skins uk, era impagabile, declamazione di shakespeare compresa... Embarassed ahhh, bei tempi....
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Messaggio Da bigghele Mar Mar 15, 2011 4:15 pm

Io aspetto da un bel po' che la postino con i sub O.o
Per caso è uscita su qualche sito? Me lo passereste? Grazie Very Happy
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Messaggio Da CiGNeTTa Mar Mar 15, 2011 9:19 pm

non te lo so dire, ho visto quella in lingua postata da pao...
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Messaggio Da CiGNeTTa Mar Mar 15, 2011 10:16 pm

bella bella, la puntata di daisy, lei non c'entra proprio niente con jal, hanno preso il filo conduttore della musica e hanno creato un personaggio completamente diverso....avessero fatto così con tutti!!mi è proprio piaciuta.
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ma la prossima sarà l'ultima, che voi sappiate?
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Messaggio Da =paO= Mer Mar 16, 2011 12:29 am

bigghele ha scritto:Io aspetto da un bel po' che la postino con i sub O.o
Per caso è uscita su qualche sito? Me lo passereste? Grazie Very Happy
Forse escono in ritardo... Ma ho visto che su Megavideo non ci sono proprio perché le puntate violano qualcosa...Infatti quelle in lingua originale sono su Videobb . Forse usciranno tra un pò, quando risolveranno questo problema di Megavideo...Se le trovo le posto.


Ho visto quella di Michelle e un pezzo di quella di Daisy... Quella di Michelle non mi ha entusiasmato , mi piace lei come personaggio e i il suo look , ma la puntata nulla di che... Come dicevo le madri in Skins Usa dimostrano minor anni rispetto ai figli... Quella di Daisy l'ho solo vista iniziare per cui non so come si evolva...
Comunque a prescindere dalla puntata che guardo ,sia che mi piaccia leggermente di più sia che non la gradisca totalmente, rimane comunque una copiatura, anche se a volte si discosta dall'oridinale, da Skin UK: per il tipo di musica, per i vestiti, per i dialoghi, per le bottiglie di alcolici che spuntano da qualunque parte come se fossero delle carte magiche...
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Le prossime puntate sono in ordine:1x09 "Tina" (March 14, 2011) & 1x10 "Eura; Everyone"(March 21, 2011)

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Messaggio Da =paO= Mer Mar 16, 2011 12:39 am

1x09 Tina In Inglese SENZA sottotitoli :

http://www.videobb.com/video/TRZNU0R4YRrp
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Messaggio Da =paO= Mer Mar 16, 2011 1:59 pm

Michelle 1x07 : CON SOTTOTITOLI :

http://www.megavideo.com/?v=053H2LWU
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Messaggio Da CiGNeTTa Mer Mar 16, 2011 10:00 pm

ma si chiama eura, la sorella di tony???ma che nome è?!?
comunque, non sapevo facessero una puntata su tina, pensa un po'....
quanto a pao, penso anche io che sia una copiatura, però gli episodi e i personaggi "originali", quelli insomma non copincollati in una versione brutta, mi sono piaciute abbastanza, non tanto quanto skins, ma come un telefilm simile e passabile. piacevole, anche. continuo a non capire perchè l'abbiano copiato così tanto, non sarebbe stato meglio avere un po' più tea e daisy e un po' meno scopiazzate? perchè, se dicono le stessissime battute, è ovvio che uno fa il paragone con la serie originale...
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Messaggio Da CiGNeTTa Mar Mar 22, 2011 10:38 pm

1x10 eura - everyone
SWNZA SOTTOTITOLI
http://www.videobb.com/video/2ZDn8L3Fj7ca
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Messaggio Da =paO= Sab Mar 26, 2011 6:10 pm

1x08 Daisy : http://www.megavideo.com/?v=KA72BBMQ
Con sottotitoli
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Messaggio Da =paO= Sab Mag 14, 2011 7:56 pm

1x09 : TINA : Con sittotitoli : http://www.megavideo.com/?v=V3WJVHFK
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Messaggio Da =paO= Gio Mag 19, 2011 1:20 am

1x10 : Eura : Con sottotitoli: http://www.megavideo.com/?v=2RRAIHGS
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Messaggio Da bigghele Ven Mag 20, 2011 9:09 pm

Devo ammettere che non è stato così orribile. A parte Chris che è stato ridotto ad un emerito imbecille e Tony che è a dir poco inguardabile e assolutamente privo di carisma, direi che gli altri sono riusciti più o meno bene e si sono distaccati di più dai cugini inglesi, Cadie è l'esempio eclatante insieme a Tea, Stanley è meno succube di Sid, Michelle è più determinata e "forte" di quella inglese, Daysi ed Abbud sono inutili a mio parere. Comunque il paragone non regge, certo, ma almeno sono riusciti a distaccarsi "decentemente"
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Messaggio Da bigghele Ven Mag 20, 2011 9:15 pm

Ah, dimenticavo, Eura è davvero una copia di Effy non riuscita affatto xD
Sebbene non mi piaccia molto Effy, riconosco che nel vederla muta e astuta nella prima serie risulta davvero misteriosa, ambigua e un po' inquietante xD A quel che di "strano", ma "geniale". Eura invece è un'inetta e il suo rapporto col fratello è praticamente inesistente.
Fa un po' ridere che Stanley sia al centro dell'attenzione e piaccia sia a Cadie che a Michelle, non mi piace questo classico triangolo, almeno nella versione uk si scopre che per Michelle era un ripiego, non era davvero interessata xD
Bah, questa versione arriva a malapena alla sufficienza per me xD
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Messaggio Da Guitar_95 Dom Ago 28, 2011 12:02 pm

A parte Chris che è stato ridotto ad un emerito imbecille e Tony che è a dir poco inguardabile

Infatti secondo me sono i personaggi peggiori, e poi avete visto come hanno vestito in certi episodi Chris??? Con una maglia a righe e i pantaloni a quadretti manco fosse un pagliaccio!XD

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Messaggio Da CiGNeTTa Lun Ago 29, 2011 10:52 pm

trovato a caso questo commento. quello che dice sulla puntata 1 lo trovo verissimo (soprattutto la parte sulla bravura degli attori UK vs le pessime capacità di quelli US)
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Why didn’t we do a recap of the US premiere of Skins last week? Honestly, after the first episode, I wasn’t sure it would be worth recapping. I remember, a year or so ago, catching a marathon of the first series of Skins UK on BBC America. There were kids being naked, doing drugs, having lots of sex and random subtitles (because regional UK accents are too hard for Americans to decipher sometimes). And one of those kids… oh my god… it was the kid from About a Boy. It was such a ludicrous, outlandish show and that was amazing. The second series excelled and with the third series, the whole cast was changed, the producers having cleverly set up a younger sister for the show to move focus to. With a cast of relative unknowns, the producers lucked out in finding young actors who fit their roles perfectly. After watching the first five minutes of “Tony,” the first episode of the US version of Skins, I thought it was horribly miscast. After watching the whole episode, I thought that it was also horribly written. I’m glad I felt obliged to stick with it, though, because the second episode, “Tea,” while not stellar, had some glimpses of promise.

The first episode introduces us to Tony, who UK viewers know will be the axis that the mostly ensemble show spins around. Tony is slick and cool and great. We know this because he lets his (seemingly mute) partied -out little sister back in during the wee hours of the morning, locks his dad out of the bathroom, peeps on an older neighbor undressing, calls his girlfriend “Nips,” insists that she find a friend to have sex with his best friend and makes a deal with his “coochie-cruncher” friend that she’ll have a wardrobe malfunction if said best friend does manage to sleep with someone. And we’re supposed to like him. This is where I realized two things: 1) Nicholas Hoult is a great actor because he made the same character with almost the same dialog really likeable and 2) the kid playing Tony is the worst piece of casting since Alicia Silverstone as Batgirl. I know we’re volunteer here, but could I get an alcohol budget if I’m going to be expected to watch this?

I know we’re volunteer here, but could I get an alcohol budget if I’m going to be expected to watch this?


The first episode follows the same plot as the UK series (with some names changed, some remaining the same) and serves well to introduce us to the characters: it’s hopeless geek Stanley’s (UK’s Sid) 17th birthday and his best friend Tony enlists his girlfriend Michelle (that’s “Nips” to you if you’re ultra-cool like Tony) to find a friend to bang him. Since no one in their right mind would, Michelle gets her crazy friend Cadie (UK’s Cassie) to agree (which she’ll totally do because she’s crazy and has been promised a buttload of drugs). First, though, he has to go get the weed from a strange dealer named Dr. LeDong in the suburbs who takes his balls as collateral (metaphorically, thankfully). Meanwhile, Tony is setting up an invitation to a rich-kid party (where they can sell the weed, I guess?) by auditioning for the choir at a girls’ school (sorry, I can’t make that one make any more sense). At the party, the foursome is joined by their friends Tea (pronounced “Tay,” the closeted lesbian cheerleader, replacing the UK’s gay dancer Maxxie), Chris (the hooligan with a soft spot for his teacher), Daisy (the asian musician, replacing Jal, the UK’s musician) and Abbud (the rebellious and goofy Indian, UK’s Anwar, who was played by the amazing Dev Patel). Chris (who’s a hooligan, don’tchaknow) starts a ruckus, Cadie passes out after taking a busload of pills and the crew needs to make a quick getaway… so they STEAL AN SUV, but it’s okay because they do it so that they can take Cadie to the hospital. As they get there, she wakes up, so they drive away (has no one reported this vehicle stolen yet?) to a lake edge to reflect and smoke some of the weed they didn’t end up selling. And Cadie needs to pee in the bushes. The brake gets disengaged and before any of the kids realize the car is rolling into the water. Miraculously, all the kids manage to escape (guess they all watched that Mythbusters episode) and walk home. The weed pops back up after all the kids have left. Poor abandoned weed.

Episode two, “Tea” opens with a day in the life of our token GLBT character. She makes eyes with a girl in class and passes her a note, heads home, changes, says bye to her dad, flashes her fake ID at the lesbian club, dances her little heart out, locks eyes with the girl from class, dances some more, makes out in a dirty alley, then the stairwell at home, spends the night having sex with the girl. The next morning, the girl, Betty, is confronted with Tea’s big old Jewish-Italian family including boxer-wearing dad, cooking mom, pregnant older sister (and her two kids hiding under the table), pervy younger brother and senile old grandmother, who recognize her as Danny Nardoi’s daughter. Betty was down for fun the night before, but when Tea tries to kiss her goodbye, she shies away, leading Tea to claim she’s a scaredy-cat. Before she leaves, her father asks her if she could do him a favor my going on a date with a colleague’s kid. Being the good girl she is, she obliges.

At school, Tony convinces Stan and Cadie to pretend they had sex, allowing him to hold Tea to her promise of arranging a wardrobe malfunction. The administration interrupts lunch to hold an impromptu assembly along the lines of Scared Straight. One of the ex-cons/examples of how not to live your life is Dr. Le-Dong, who seems to know that Stanley goes there but can’t seem to find him because he’s hiding behind a folder. Le-Dong continues his character trait of being weird and creepy. Aren’t there laws against letting ex-cons into schools? Or is that just pedophiles? He follows Tea, Tony and Michelle as they walk to class and as Tea walks alone, Betty comes up to her, hinting that she might be ready to come out. Tea brushes her aside, saying that she’s not looking for a relationship because “no one can match me.” Betty, disbelieving, walks away, throwing Tea’s earlier assessment back at her: “Scaredy-cat.” That night, as Tea gets some loving from the only person who can match her (herself, with aide of an Audrey Hepburn poster), her Nana wanders into her room and gets into bed (oh, the cringe worthy awkwardness!). Nana seems to think that Tea is her mom and admonishes her for marrying that Italian (because Italians only want the sex). Tea opens up to her Nana, asking what’s wrong with her because she seems to only want the sex and nothing that’s behind it. The next morning, Tea seems ready to come out to her family, but just as she gets them all quiet for a minute, her sister’s water breaks and chaos erupts again.

When her dad drops her off for the arranged date, she asks him how he can stand having his family disown him for marrying her mom. He loves her, and that’s all that matters. In the restaurant, Tea turns a corner and finds her date waiting for her – Tony. The two ditch the restaurant, find a bottle of vodka from somewhere and head to a park to talk about deep things like what love is and what lesbians do. Tea takes Tony back to (well, we know it’s not her place… is it the club? I honestly have no idea where they went) somewhere and shows him her dance moves. Which, since they’re drunk and horny teenagers, turns into them having sex. Tea can’t get through it without laughing though, totally not seeing what straight girls see in it. Tony, to give him credit, is pretty cool about being laughed at in the middle of sex. When Tea comes home, Le-Dong is waiting for her, wanting to know how to find Stanley. She stands up to him and he threatens to out her as a “little dyke.” At some point in this, Tea’s father has come out and even in an undershirt and boxers, yeah, that’s a guy I wouldn’t want to mess with. Le-Dong cowers off while Tea heads inside. Shaken by both events tonight, she crawls into Nana’s bed. In her senile sleep-talking, Nana mutters that Eisenhower failed her. He failed her because he said they’d be safe. But they weren’t safe, she and her girlfriend weren’t safe in this country, they were still ostracized, still persecuted like they were in the old country. Tea realizes what her grandmother is saying: she’s telling her the story of how she was a lesbian. She had a lover, but they were forced to part, forced to live lies and fit themselves into molds that were not meant for them. It’s an absolutely heartbreaking scene and elicited more emotion from me than I ever though this incarnation of Skins would.

The next morning at school, Tea sits by herself before being joined by Michelle, making for an awkward situation. Michelle inquires about Tea’s date, which she says went all right. Of course, the guy tried to get in her pants and Michelle only wishes things could be so easy with Tony, saying that she “works at it and it feels like… work.” Before things can get any more awkward in this conversation, in front of her boyfriend and the whole cafeteria, Betty walks up to Tea and kisses her, then walks out, dumping her boyfriend on the way. Leaving school, Tea’s father is out front, asking her to ID the guy who said “that word” to her last night. He’s got Le-Dong in the backseat of the car with a couple of thugs holding him. We think, “Wow, that’s a really accepting, yet still scary way of him accepting that,” before he says that he won’t stand for anyone calling his daughter a kike. Right. Tea asks her dad to just let him go. He drives away, letting Le-Dong know that it’s his lucky day and that he should take advantage of that luck and leave town. At home, Tony calls Tea. He’s clearly more affected by last night than he initially let on. She tells him that it’s not going to fly, but he insists that he matches her, just as Betty calls on the other line. She hangs up on them both, choosing instead to dance it out by herself.

While watching the Tony/Tea sex scene I had a revelation about both version of Skins. A lot of the controversy about the show is centered on the fact that these kids are doing things they shouldn’t be: swearing, smoking, drinking, using drugs, having sex… they’re doing “adult” things that society says they must wait another few years to do. But isn’t that what being a teenager is? Recklessly thinking that you’re an adult and you’re ready to do adult things without fully understanding what baggage those things come with? Sure, it’s exaggerated… most teenagers aren’t stealing and wrecking cars, getting on the bad sides of drug dealers, swilling vodka in the park… but teenage life is exaggerated. Every little drama feels like the most important thing in the world, that the entire universe must be affected by and rotate around. On the flip side, however, the big actions you make seem small… seem like there can’t be any consequences; not if you don’t want there to be. As a show from a teenagers’ perspective, Skins makes total sense. It’s outrageous, but no more outrageous then their everyday, emotional, heightened teenage feelings. I’m will to go there with this version of Skins, as long as they keep giving me rich stories like Tea’s.

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Messaggio Da =paO= Mar Ago 30, 2011 8:24 pm


Skins US cancelled
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MTV said in a statement, “Skins is a global television phenomenon that, unfortunately, didn’t connect with a US audience as much as we had hoped. We admire the work that the series’ creator Bryan Elsley did in adapting the show for MTV, and appreciate the core audience that embraced it.” Bryan Elsley has described the American version of his classic British show as a “rather old fashioned television series, a very serious attempt to get to the roots of young people’s lives. It tries to tell the truth. Sometimes that truth can be a little painful to adults and parents.”

Fonte: http://www.skinsfansite.com/2011/06/skins-us-cancelled.html




Skins US, cancellato da MTV tra le polemiche

Skins US, remake del più celebre inglese con un linguaggio realistico e spudorato, non lesinando su scene di nudo, ha dato fastidio a non pochi americani, che hanno boicottato la prima stagione. Risultato? La serie è stata cancellata!
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Skins ha generato più problemi che soldi: dalla possibile violazione delle leggi federali americane, alle critiche del PTC, passando per la metà degli inserzionisti pubblicitari che hanno scelto di ritirare gli spot già comprati per paura di boicottaggi. Prezzi troppo alti da pagare se poi non vi è anche un riscontro adeguato di pubblico…I remake non hanno quasi mai successo; perché non inventarsi qualcosa di nuovo, invece di cercare di replicare un telefilm che aveva un pubblico ed una mentalità diversa?

Fonte: http://tvblog.girlpower.it/telefilm/skins-us-cancellato-da-mtv-tra-le-polemiche/

USA, Skins cancellato…ora si pensa a Misfits

Gli americani questa volta hanno proprio toppato. La versione USA di Skins, in onda su MTV America, è stata cancellata. A dirla tutta non ci aspettavamo nulla di diverso, solo questione di tempo. Gli americani sono troppo (finti) puritani per una serie del genere! Ma non sorge anche a voi una domanda spontanea? Su MTV Skins cancellato, ma Jersey Shore un successone?!
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E per un remake statunitense cancellato ve ne è uno di cui si inizia già a parlare. Sembra che oltreoceano ci sia il forte interesse a rifare uno dei più recenti fenomeni british, Misfits. Stando alle indiscrezioni il produttore esecutivo inglese per accettare vuole prima la garanzia di quasi totale controllo sulla realizzazione. Chissà come mai…
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Messaggio Da =paO= Mar Ago 30, 2011 8:43 pm

As you all already know the US version of Skins will not have a second season. Here is what our lovely actors from the last 2 UK seasons have to say about this remake. (from Bullett Magazine)

Why do you think Skins U.S remake’s debut was so controversial?





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I always felt Skins was a quite distinctly British show, and I think that was why it did really well to begin with. All we had on TV before Skins for teenage shows was just like American imports and it was important to have something British and it was very much about the British experience.

- HANNAH MURRAY (CASSIE, 1st Generation)



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There’s a whole lot of age restrictions. I don’t like generalizing, because it’s a big old place, America. There’s that many more people living there. But I would say that it probably says more about an audience or an American audience as opposed to Skins as an idea, or a project. It’s understandable, you know? If you associate 20, 18, 19 still as kids, not old enough to drink, then you’re going to be surprised when you see them on TV with American accents doing exactly that. I don’t agree with the naïveté, it’s not like it doesn’t exist. You can’t tell me everyone in America doesn’t touch alcohol until the age of 21. You guys are getting crunk. Everybody’s getting totally crunk right now.

- JACK O’CONNELL (COOK, 2nd Generation)


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I suppose it depends on where you are in America, but it’s certainly a more conservative society, which is why a program like Skins would cause controversy. There were a lot of parents that weren’t too keen on our show here [UK], but we don’t get up in arms as much as people do sometimes in America. The fact that the legal drinking age is 21 leads to a kind of—I suppose it’s the reason why they do it, it leads to a slightly longer innocence. Everything that goes on here [UK], goes on in America, it’s just a lot harder to get it shown on television without compromising some kind of integrity along the way. Culturally, America’s really a place that’s fascinated me—you can watch Terminator Salvation on television at 6 o’clock in the evening and there’s people blowing each other up with guns. I feel like America has the best and worst of everything.
- JOE DEMPSIE (CHRIS, 1st Generation)



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I know a little bit about it and I’ve read about it, I haven’t seen it. I’m not avoiding it, I didn’t actually end up watching quite a lot of the episodes in our series either, and to go back and relive it in America today—it’s a bit too soon. I read some of the reactions of the press in the States, which is maybe something more drastic than the reactions we have here. It’s a tricky one, particularly having not seen the American version. I’m sure it’s quite similar to our version. I think in America people maybe get more involved in things whereas in England if you don’t like it, you don’t watch it. You don’t necessarily have to have such a large reaction to it—but I don’t know, it’s difficult to say exactly why the reaction was more severe for the Americans. It’s probably because advertising networks pay a lot more on MTV than advertisers over here. I’m sure it’s many different things.

- NICHOLAS HOULT (TONY, 1st Generation)

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Messaggio Da CiGNeTTa Dom Set 04, 2011 2:14 am

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Gli americani questa volta hanno proprio toppato. La versione USA di Skins, in onda su MTV America, è stata cancellata. A dirla tutta non ci aspettavamo nulla di diverso, solo questione di tempo. Gli americani sono troppo (finti) puritani per una serie del genere! Ma non sorge anche a voi una domanda spontanea? Su MTV Skins cancellato, ma Jersey Shore un successone?!


sì, beh, in effetti, lasciando stare che skins us non era un granchè, ma vogliamo parlare dell'alta morale del jersey shore?!?
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Si va bhe ma non è una novità l'ipocrisia dell'America..
Peccato che essendo noi succursale,colonia, di quegli schifosi le perggiori cose arrivano anche nelle nostre case!! Solo un demete sarebbe discposto a guardare quelle porcherie!
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